Hey y’all.

I know that there have been plenty of posts with questions about the ruling of versus rolls and my questions are probably answered in the depth of this forum. But the more I read the more confused I get. Maybe it’s because there are controversial approaches or answers to pre BWGR times but most likely my thinking just got unnecessary complicated.

I would be happy if someone could walk with me through an example and settle it once and for all:

Let’s say there are two combatants with swords

a) is unskilled and has Agility B5 and has a +Ob1 wound penalty

b) has sword skill B3

and we are looking at a sword(beginners luck) vs sword test:

- a) rolls 3 successes, b) rolls 2 successes
- For a result a) subtracts 1 success from his 3 (because of the wound penalty) to 2 successes and b) get’s his two successes doubled (for his opponents BL) to 4 successes. So 2 vs 4 successes with a MoS of 2 for b).
- For advancement a) looks at the 5D he rolled and compares them to the 2 successes of his opponent plus 1 for the wound he got. Ob3 it is. This is a routine test and therefore counts towards opening the sword skill and not advancing the agility Stat. b) compares his 3 dice from his sword skill with the 2 successes of a). He marks a routine test for his skill. (the fact that a) was wounded doesn’t matter at all!?)

Does this look right to you? I’m a bit confused with the advancement of b) and the line on p.439 about unskilled vs skilled in Fight! “you must generate two successes for each one of your opponent’s”. Why isn’t it worded like on p.29 “double the obstacle or the amount of successes your opponent rolls and then add modifiers”. Is there a relevant difference?

Bonus question 1: Am I right that if both sides roll BL it’s back to Stat vs Stat where no DOP is applied or are there any problems with MoS that I haven’t had my head around yet?

Bonus question 2: When there is a versus test where one side uses a stat and the other rolls BL, do both sides suffer a DOP? BL for sure but is it stat vs skill? … While I’m writing this I already hear the BWHQ screaming: “BL TESTS A STAT SO IT’S A STAT VS STAT TEST!!!”… Probably I should scratch that question…

Super bonus @BWHQ: Is there any chance for a discount on the pdfs if I have bought the books already? Sadly I’m not swimming in Cash dice and 50 bucks for BWGR, Codex and Anthology are quite a bit for me. Or can I hope for a bundle sale in the store any time? Anyway, thanks a lot for this brilliant game and the cool forum! :*

And thanks in advance for any answers!