Social skills: What's the difference between Persuasion & Oratory. ... and more?

I lost my first post, but the gist of it is that I’m pretty sure I see agreements made around our board games using many social skills besides Persuasion. Haggling, Falsehood, Soothing Platitudes and Ugly Truth beeing popular, but both Rhetoric and Oratory see their use, as well as Stenorious Debate and sometimes something that looks like Intimidaton. In some even Seduction plays a roll, though I certainly never fall for some batted eyelashes! Sometimes it seems like the Bargaining skill is beeing used as well, yes the one that deals with devils. :wink:

I’ve used different discussion-skills in other situations as well.

Is the skills really so tightly defined that misuse warrents dice-throwing? (Pun not intended…:P) And don’t Gandalf mainly use Oratory and Intimidation against the non-ringbearer hobbits?

Is one-one-one social rolls always Persuasion, even if I shout and threaten?

I agree, but I made a statement that the use of skill could be a character-statement as well, or at least say something about the pressure the character is under:

[i]Arggh! Dammit, now we’ll lose our main force in the Ghoul Marshes! I don’t have time to work my silver-tongue! (G5 Persuade) “My King! This is madness! How can you trust the Duke on his mere word?! How can you even be sure his scouts are in the marshes?! You can’t throw away the main bulk of your army on the word of someone who’s got that much to lose! Don’t you see the goatee!?!!”

GM: The knights are closing in…

While they do I prepare my B2 Oratory! Can I get a roll? Intimidation- and Strategy-FoRKs? Do I get an advantage for the Goatee? [/i]

I also said I could be inclined to only give a +1Ob. Maybe the King appriciate curt and to-the-point speakers? At least in times of war? For failiure clause I wold add that half the knights think him uncouth and the Duke’s laying him for hatred, but the scene was great - and surely he can’t beat Ob.7, right? :slight_smile: